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Post by cobrafitz on Mar 23, 2008 20:29:30 GMT -5
SF/SG Caron Butler B A- B- B+ C+ D
PG Jameer Nelson B- A- A- A- C+ C
I'm considering giving the youngsters a chance to play this year, but that all depends on if I move Jameer and Butler. Both are excellent players, Jameer definitely a top 10 PG in the NBL and Caron is valuable as a SF, probably top 15 or 20 in the league as well.
Looking for picks primarily unless someone can upgrade me at SF over Ariza.
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Post by cobrafitz on Mar 24, 2008 9:10:56 GMT -5
FYI - one PG in the NBL has overall better grades than Jameer - Ray Felton.
Oh, he also gets paid 17 mil a year, making Jameer's 12 mil look like a bargain.
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Post by nets on Mar 24, 2008 9:53:21 GMT -5
Your not really trying to claim that Nelson is better then Arenas are you?
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Post by cobrafitz on Mar 24, 2008 10:07:11 GMT -5
Of course not, I'm saying he's a top ten PG.
I think Arenas doesn't come up with my search because he doesn't rebound quite as well.
That said, my point was to show he's one of the best all-around PGs in the game, which for some teams could be a big boost. His 8:1 assist to turnover ratio a case in point.
My team will suffer dramatically without him running the point, but with my competition all making moves to get better, and my team staying the same after a first round disaster, might be time to take a step back.
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Post by nets on Mar 24, 2008 10:16:21 GMT -5
Sounds fair and if I needed a PG then I would be in the bidding but when you say better overall ratings that is probably not true.
Nelson is a C+ in rebounding and Arenas is a C but after that Arenas is equal or better in every single rating so really Arenas is better overall.
You did a specific search and only Felton showed up but saying overall is a big stretch.
I assume if you took out the C rebounding criteria you may get more PGs showing up.
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Post by cobrafitz on Mar 24, 2008 11:09:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I didn't think the rebounding rating would make much difference. When you take that out, you get:
Arenas, Felton, Crittenton, Foye.
Even that would suggest a top 5 PG which is my point and I would argue he's better than Crittenton and Foye.
Of those, Jameer is cheaper than all of them except Crittenton.
I'd even argue if you needed a passer and not a scorer, you might be better off going with Nelson over Arenas and his 2.8:1 assist to turnover ratio.
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Post by dajason on Mar 25, 2008 0:30:12 GMT -5
Give me Deron Williams and his 3.8:1 assist to turnover ratio and his 19.2 ppg his 6 rpg and his 2 years younger. but thats just me.
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Post by cobrafitz on Mar 26, 2008 20:55:12 GMT -5
Still looking to move Nelson primarily for anyone interested. I like the way my team looks so most interest would be in picks. If I get an upgrade at a position I'd consider that as well.
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