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Post by dingles87 on May 26, 2008 18:13:03 GMT -5
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Post by Golden State on May 26, 2008 21:53:59 GMT -5
god bless
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Post by dingles87 on May 26, 2008 22:28:45 GMT -5
yes, god bless the nation builders.
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Post by KingsOfKings on May 26, 2008 22:34:43 GMT -5
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Post by Golden State on May 26, 2008 23:00:18 GMT -5
They build the nation
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Post by dingles87 on May 26, 2008 23:00:33 GMT -5
umm, i understand if you disagree with the first one because you're a sheep addicted to fox news and other msm. but the second one about the military analyst program...do you just particularly enjoy propaganda? want me to build you a time machine back to nazi germany?
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Post by dingles87 on May 26, 2008 23:01:53 GMT -5
nm
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Post by KingsOfKings on May 26, 2008 23:03:57 GMT -5
I don't own a TV, and I'm a conservative-leaning libertarian (from a test I took)
I don't agree with war in most cases either, but this was just over-opinionated bad writing, and propaganda in itself.
The fact that our government tries to make itself look good should surprise nobody.
Why not just say "I support the Monroe doctrine and we need to go back to those days because our people are dying and I don't think there's a threat"...not that I agree with THAT, but that's effectively what all of the articles said except they had a bunch of sketch arguments.
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Post by Detroit Pistons Sports Group on May 26, 2008 23:20:10 GMT -5
Here's the good stuff the real stuff. You can down load and watch these videos or not i dont care. I havent read all those articles dont have time but i have had time to truely say thanks to our men in service. Plt 1002 Last Marine Top row is my brother. Hes finishing his Boot camp in two weeks. Hes coming out as an (MOS 2621 - - Special Communications Signals Collection Operator) Its in intelligence. You can look it up. I couldnt be prouder. Heres link to the Video if you want to give him and them some respect. www.devildogs.info/Alpha%20Company.htm I Love you Thom and all of those that are fighting for us in any way possible. Peace out Maury
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Post by dingles87 on May 26, 2008 23:26:20 GMT -5
I don't own a TV, and I'm a conservative-leaning libertarian (from a test I took) I don't agree with war in most cases either, but this was just over-opinionated bad writing, and propaganda in itself. The fact that our government tries to make itself look good should surprise nobody. Why not just say "I support the Monroe doctrine and we need to go back to those days because our people are dying and I don't think there's a threat"...not that I agree with THAT, but that's effectively what all of the articles said except they had a bunch of sketch arguments. your political views are based off a test? as a libertarian, do you ever visit lewrockwell.com or the mises institute?
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Post by KingsOfKings on May 27, 2008 0:20:31 GMT -5
Um noooo.... it tested my political views and that's the label it put on me.
I can't say that I have visited those two sites before tonight.
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Post by rocketsgm on May 27, 2008 8:40:24 GMT -5
I didnt read either links but it all boils down to we are on a run away train headed for the New World Order and there is nothing that can be done to change this.
I will always support the troops but should we get out of Iraq YES and as soon as we can. Iraq is going to fall no matter if we leave tomorrow or leave in 100years like mccain wants. There is nothing that will stop Iraq from falling.
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Post by nets on May 27, 2008 9:09:04 GMT -5
I didnt read either links but it all boils down to we are on a run away train headed for the New World Order and there is nothing that can be done to change this. I will always support the troops but should we get out of Iraq YES and as soon as we can. Iraq is going to fall no matter if we leave tomorrow or leave in 100years like mccain wants. There is nothing that will stop Iraq from falling. Who do you think it will fall to and what will happen when that happens? If you are at all concerned about Iran in the middle east (I have not decided yet how concerned I am) then leaving a power void in Iraq could be a problem. If we didn't want to fight a war then we should have left Saddam in power. He may be a ruthless dictator but he created a balance in the middle east with regards to Iran. Sometimes a good enemy is needed to keep people in check. The cold war was a very good period for the US in a lot of ways and could have been possible without the "Russian threat" whether you believe it was a real threat or not.
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Post by rocketsgm on May 27, 2008 9:46:58 GMT -5
let me first say I am a born again christian
Who do you think it will fall to and what will happen when that happens? The antichrist and false prophet. who that will be nobody knows. Iraq is Babylon in the bible. As to what will happen read the last book in the bible revelations and it will tell you. However basically the states like russia,china and iran will come against israel and try to wipe them off the face of the map.
If you are at all concerned about Iran in the middle east (I have not decided yet how concerned I am) then leaving a power void in Iraq could be a problem. Iran is only one state over there to be concerned about Russia to the north and china to the west are bigger problems then iran is. I do not know if you are aware but the president of russia will come back into power in 2012 and Russia and China are already having joint military operations.
If we didn't want to fight a war then we should have left Saddam in power. Saddam was going to become a problem or another state like iran, china or russia would have taken him out. the antichrist will rule from iraq.
Sometimes a good enemy is needed to keep people in check. The cold war was a very good period for the US in a lot of ways and could have been possible without the "Russian threat" whether you believe it was a real threat or not. Russia still is a threat and just because the bear is not showing his teeth right now remember the bear still has them.
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Post by rocketsgm on May 27, 2008 9:56:04 GMT -5
The Majority of people that have a problem with staying in iraq is over money. The Iraqs are either to stupid to care what happens to them or they just dont give a darn. Iraq has more then enough money to fund the country themselves however iraq is still depending on the US to fund the rebuild of there country.
That would be like the US going to Canada and Mexico and asking them to fund the US economy since we are going through rough times right now. The two countries would laugh at us and right they should.
If a country that has the money to support themselves and chooses not to or not to care then whatever happens to them they have asked for.
I think if we left iraq one or two things would happen. 1. The Iraqs will fund and care for the country like they are supposed to be doing. 2. The country falls back into chaos and another saddam emerges or the antichrist emerges and takes over.
I think regardless if we left in a year or left in 100years like mccain wants The same thing will happen the IRaqs stand on there own two feet or they dont.
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